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Scooters - The Complete Guide
By: go_ahead_make_my_day( 237Feedback score is 100 to 499) Top 1000 Reviewer
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Guide viewed: 67600 times Tags: Scooter|Chinese|Vespa|Suzuki|Honda

Here's the complete low-down on scooters !


First, Chinese mainland scooters:

Brand names mean nothing here, there are dozens of Chinese factories churning out clones of clones and many wind up on eBay. Some names include: Linhai 260, Roketa MC-54B, Bali and many others. Most of them use one of two engines, the CF Moto engines which are Honda copies, and the Linhai engines which are Yamaha copies. These engines are mostly good, its the other stuff that is a little problematic.

I own a VOG 260 which is a Linhai-engined Burgman clone made by Xingyue. is that complex enough ? Anyway, if you buy a mainland Chinese scooter, it will most likely arrive in a shipping crate with shipping oil and anti freeze. You must do the complete pre-delivery inspection yourself, change all the fluids, and may expect a few problems like loose fasteners, electical problems.. but nothing major. Many parts can be obtained from Roketa or other vendors, but some parts take a long time to arrive or are unavailable. I'd suggest reading the forums at scootdawg.com before purchase.

Most of them are sold by fly-by-night eBay sellers who dont carry parts. Last caution - many are not really DOT approved and therefore most insurance companies will NOT cover them  - or the DMV will not register them. Having said that, these scooters are only $1100 for a 150cc unit which is fun to drive (45-55 mph max not 65 like advertiised). The 50cc scooters will not attain street-worthy speeds. 35 mph max. You should buy 2, one for parts. Seriously.

I've gotten a lot of email from eBay sellers complaining about my statements re Chinese scooters. Here is further advice: Before buying a scooter, call the 'dealer' and order 2 critical parts - example a drive belt and a front brake disc. Their non-response and inability to deliver critical parts (or any parts at all) should tell you all you need to know. If indeed they have the parts, then and only then Id consider giving them the order. There is no rush most scooters are listed over and over and over. They are not one-time 'deals' on ebay.

Also getting email asking for a recommendation on one brand or another (usually unknown). I cant advise beyond the brands Ive mentioned here - advice there is to find out where its made and compare the pictures to other Chinese knockoff scooters.

Brand names are meaningless with most of the Chinese scooters, they will put a decal with whatever brand you want if you buy a container of them. Please dont email me asking whether 'XTREME FOO FOO SCOOTER MAJESTIC DIM SUM' is a really good scooter brand. No, it is not. Thats why people pay $4500 for a real Yamaha Suzuki or Honda.

There is an amusing derivative of Chinese scooters - the Chinese knock-off of another Chinese scooter. That's right, looks the same, same lousy quality, lack of parts etc. Why they dont follow the 1950's Japanese pattern of exactly copying German or other high quality stuff is beyond me. There are 4 or 5 very large scooter factories in China  (Xingue and Geeley being the largest and soon a car exporter to US) and probably 200 knock offs. If you call them, they'll send you a shipping container of scooters for $600 each, and off to eBay they go. No parts, no warranty, no technical support.

Next in rank are the Taiwanese and Korean scooters. SYM, Kymco etc which are very good scooters.This is also the source of many smaller Honda-Yamaha branded scooters like the Vino 125. Kymcos are good units but tend to be a bit over priced in the United States. I'd compare features carefully and buy if it looks like a good deal financially.

Next, Italian scooters (Aprilia) etc. These are a mixed bag and the prices start to approach Japanese scooters. Real Vespas are very slick, expensive $5500-up - and all-metal. They rust fast in damp climes. Quality is otherwise pretty good but the engines are small for the money.  Example a 150cc Vespa is $5800 same as a 250cc or even 400 Suzuki.

Next up, the Yamaha and Honda Chinese./Taiwan-licensed scooters sold under house name like Vino, Metropolitan etc. These are good units with the advantage you can get parts. The Vino 125 is a pretty nice small scooter, 47 mph very high quality. However it is nearly $ 3000 out the door.

Next up, the larger plastic Vespas/Piaggio, like the X9 etc. These are all right but not price and feature competitive with the following category..especially in storage, dependability, service ease etc.

Suzuki Burgman 400 and Yamaha Majesty 400 scooters. There are very nice units priced $5900 and up. Excellent machines, they rival many cycles for performance and reliability.

Next, Honda Scooters. These are pretty expensive $5500 and up but very reliable units. The Reflex 250 is particularly good, but same price as Suzuki and Yamaha 400's so Id have to think about that. The Big Ruckus 250cc is interesting but no storage and no floorboards to speak of.

Finally, maxi-scooters - Suzuki Burgman 650, Honda Silver Wing 600 Yamaha Tmax 500. These are really excellent long distance tourers, great commuters, capable of over 100 mph and carry a lot. Expensive, but worth it. If you hunt around you can get one way below list price, but if you just walk cold into a dealer you will pay $ 9000 or so.

Final note: there are a few Vespa restorers selling on ebay, offering gorgeous sidecar Vespas from Indonesia or Viet Nam cheap. Somebody, please write a detailed review of these !  Their feedback is good but there must be a  few gotchas. Many scooter forums are warning about parts quality on these units.


 

 

 


Guide ID: 10000000001161036Guide created: 06/09/06 (updated 11/20/09)

 
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