I wish I knew about this reviews before i decided to buy a phone from this guy. for those of you that is thinking of getting a phone from cellz4less you have been warned! Buy at your own risk! This article will help you make an educated decision whether your hard earned money is worth using to buy a product from this seller. I will be using excerpt from our actual correspondence as we move along.
About my experience:
Sept 24 '07 - I bought a Nokia 8890 Phone from cellz4less
Hi willisticzon,
Congratulations! You purchased the following item:
NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Sale price: $87.18
Quantity: 1
Subtotal: US $87.18
Shipping & Handling:
Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service: US $18.00 for first item, US $15.00 for each additional item.
Expedited Int'l Flat Rate Shipping: US $60.00 for first item, US $60.00 for each additional item.
Insurance: (included)
Sales tax: 8.253% CA Sales tax (applies to subtotal + S&H)
View item | Go to My eBay
Your purchase is complete
Sept 26 '07 I got this email from cellz4less
Your item has been shipped.
Dear willisticzon,
Your order has processed through our shipping department and is being submitted
to our fulfillment team. You will receive a update email providing you shipment
infomation. You should be receiving it shortly. Thank you again for your
business.
Item title: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Item number: 170152780750
Buyer User ID: willisticzon
Seller User ID: cellz4less
Total: $113.86
Go to usps website and enter this tracking number: 9101785091401283794515
I was so excited thinking "wow this seller is so professional lucky I bought from him." Since I live only 6 hrs away I figured I'll get my phone after 5 days. Then the waiting game begins!
Oct. 01 '07 I am getting impatient so I decided to contact cellz4less
Question about NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn more.
Dear cellz4less,
its been 5 days still waiting for my phone kinda slow delivery i'm only 6 hrs away
- willisticzon
Item and user details
Item title: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Item number: 170152780750
End date: Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 19:14:36 PDT
From User: willisticzon( 33)
100% Positive Feedback
Member since Jan-06-03 in United States
Activity with willisticzon (last 90 days): willisticzon has bid on 1 of my items.
This message was sent while the listing was active. willisticzon is a bidder.
Its been 2 days still no reply from cellz4less, I decided to file a compliant with paypal
2 days is fair enough right?
Oct.3 '07
Dear Willis,
Thank you for contacting PayPal. We have begun our investigation of the
following transaction:
Transaction Date: Sep 24, 2007
Transaction Amount: -$113.86 USD
Seller's Transaction ID: 50D64929CM985193L
Case Number: PP-345-861-591
Seller's Name: Cellz4Less
Seller's Email: caved050@aol.com
Our records indicate that the seller shipped your item using PayPal
Shipping. You can track this package by logging in to your PayPal account
and visiting your transaction history log or by confirming the information
below:
Tracking Company: USPS
Tracking Number: 9101785091401283794515
If you choose not to cancel this claim, we will resume our investigation
after 3 business days. We will make every effort to resolve this claim
within 30 days although we may require additional time to complete our
investigation.
Finally after 9 days I got a message:
Oct 9. 07
RE: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #170152780750
Thanks for your email. Im sorry for the delay but we needed to hold your
purchased because we found out that the phone that you purchased was locked.
so we needed to return it the distributor for unlocking, but we will be
sending it as soon as we receive it from them . Once again im sorry for the
inconvinience, but if you wish to cancel your purchased we would
understand. For assistance kindly contact our shipping department at
3108391818 around 11am-6pm pacific time. Thanks for your time
Duh! are you guys reading this?! He said my phone was locked! Okay that could happen but what about the rest of the 50 units that he is selling? After all he got 50 8890's for sale cant he just spare me one from the bunch?
So i called the number he gave me.
Oct.10 '07
11am - I got a recording
1pm - I got a recording
3pm - I got a recording
5:30pm - Recording said office is closed already
I'm getting frustrated already!
Oct.11 '07 I got a message from him
Willis, We were about to ship the phone out to you today, but unfortunately there was a dispute on your paypal account. Kindly lift the dispute so that we can send the phone out today. Kindly contact our shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
Okay understandable but I dont trust him anymore so I wrote..
I will cancel the dispute as soon as i see that the package is already
in transit. i will check it thru the usps website i will give you 2
working days to do this if i dont see the package being in transit by
Tuesday give me my money back and i will cancel the dispute!
I'm still trying to be diplomatic.. Then he wrote..
Oct 12
Thanks for your email. Im sorry for the delay but your item is now in
transit with USPS Priority tracking number 9101785091401283794515 and
you should be receiving it shortly. If you have questions kindly contact our
shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-6pm Pacific time. Thanks for
your time and patience.
WTF! does this guy actually think that I'm an idiot or something?! It was the same tracking number he gave me the first time
check the USPS website and enter this tracking number to see for your self 9101785091401283794515.
The item was never been shipped yet.
Either this guy is trying to con me or he does not know the meaning of the word "In Transit"
I lost faith that i will ever get the phone i worked hard for so I just let Paypal decide. After all I still have a dispute on file. And then.....
Oct 18
Willis, we tried to ship your item today but we found out that there was a dispute on paypal, kindly lift the dispute on paypal so that we can send the phone out today. For questions kindly contact our shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
I had enough of this guy so I decided to call him, I just want my hard earned money back! A guy named Mike picked up the phone (the number does work all you need is patience and a lot of free time!) he told me that the phone was already shipped out and that I should get it by saturday, he added that the phone somehow got lost thru the hands of USPS and that they ordered a "TRACE" already. WTF!
I called Oct 18 Friday around lunch time and he said that I will get it Oct 19 Saturday. I waited
.......Nothing?!
Oct. 23 ahhh there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
Resolution of Your Case: #PP-345-861-591
Dear Willis,
We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.
We were able to recover $113.86 USD and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.
If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.
The Justice system works! I got my money back and decided to give this guy a feedback will it be positive?!.. NO!
Negative feedback rating never got d item waited a month poor comuncation BUYERS BEWARE 100% TIME WASTER!
Buyer:
willisticzon 34
The guts off this guy you would'nt believe the email I got from him
eBay ID cellz4less has filed a case about you - Resolve an Issue with Transaction #170152780750
SquareTrade, eBay's preferred dispute resolution service, was recently contacted by Cellz4Less Cellz4Less (eBay User ID: cellz4less) regarding a transaction.
It is our goal to help parties resolve disputes to everyone's satisfaction.
Click Here To Help Resolve The Issue
It takes 5-10 minutes to answer the complaint.
If this button does not work, please copy & paste this link to your browser address bar:
https://www.squaretrade.com/odr/jsp/rsp/response_pg1.jsp?caseid=060435787856396902&sm=N&sId=
Details of the Transaction: eBay Item Number: 170152780750
Merchandise Description: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Reported Problems:
# I received feedback for this transaction and would like it withdrawn.
Why Participate in Resolving the Issue
* Absolutely Free - there is no cost to you.
* Unbiased and Neutral - SquareTrade is an objective third party.
* Highly effective in settling the dispute.
* Voluntary at all times - you have no obligation at any time to settle or continue participating in the process.
* Simple and Quick - It takes 5-10 minutes to answer the complaint and most disputes settle within 7 days with less than 30 minutes of total time from you.
This is an automated notification - please respond by the form.
Who is Squaretrade?
Squaretrade is eBay's preferred Dispute Resolution provider. We resolve thousands of disputes each month from eBay and other marketplaces. Click here to learn more about SquareTrade.
Sincerely,
Squaretrade Customer Support
*Please do not respond to this email with information regarding your case, as it can only be processed through Squaretrade website. If you have other questions, please contact us. Please make sure you reference your Squaretrade Case ID: 357878563.
*If you would like to not receive any of these email notifications, even though it may lead to feedback withdrawal, you may click here.
WTF! what the h#*l is this april's fool or something?! My wife said its harrasment but honestly I find it hillaroius. such desperation though!
I think He realized that i will never fall for that, he emailed me for his last bid of desperation:
Willis, We are contacting you today in regards to the negative feedback that we received from you in ebay. We do apologize for all the inconvinience and delay but is there anyway to resolve this issue with you? Please advise. We can also be reached at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
Thanks
Francis
Cellz4Less
Resolve the issue? I tried resolving the issue for a month but all I got from him was delaying tactics and lie. After Paypal gave me my money back, after I gave him a negative feedback that's when he wants to resolve the issue.
Oct 30 I got an email from ebay saying that:
Dear willisticzon,
cellz4less has informed us that they have not yet received your payment for the following item: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE (#170152780750)
No action is being taken against your account at this time. However, it is important to remember that when you bid on or buy an item you are agreeing to a contract between you and the seller. If the situation isn't resolved within 7 days of this reminder email, you may receive an Unpaid Item strike under eBay's Unpaid Item Policy or lose feedback privileges for this transaction
Most Unpaid Item disputes can be resolved through direct communication between the buyer and seller, and we encourage you to work with your trading partner to reach a resolution.
Thank you,
eBay
What is this guy doing?! trying to annoy me or something? This is what he do to some how remove the negative feedbacks he gets so he could brag about his feedbacks being 100% Positive What an Artist!
My realization about this whole ordeal is, that Paypal really works and I will never ever do any business on ebay without using Paypal, Paypal works it may take time but it works.
And as for you cellz4less dont try emailing me because it will just go straight to my spam folder.
you could remove all your negative feedbacks but there is a growing community of ebayers that you conned and we are doing the best we can to make an awareness that people like you does exist in ebay.
And for you that is reading this at the moment I hope that you will find this article helpfull and that this may help you making a WISE and EDUCATED decision if purchasing something from cellz4less
Thanks!
willisticzon
About my experience:
Sept 24 '07 - I bought a Nokia 8890 Phone from cellz4less
Hi willisticzon,
Congratulations! You purchased the following item:
NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Sale price: $87.18
Quantity: 1
Subtotal: US $87.18
Shipping & Handling:
Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service: US $18.00 for first item, US $15.00 for each additional item.
Expedited Int'l Flat Rate Shipping: US $60.00 for first item, US $60.00 for each additional item.
Insurance: (included)
Sales tax: 8.253% CA Sales tax (applies to subtotal + S&H)
View item | Go to My eBay
Your purchase is complete
Sept 26 '07 I got this email from cellz4less
Your item has been shipped.
Dear willisticzon,
Your order has processed through our shipping department and is being submitted
to our fulfillment team. You will receive a update email providing you shipment
infomation. You should be receiving it shortly. Thank you again for your
business.
Item title: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Item number: 170152780750
Buyer User ID: willisticzon
Seller User ID: cellz4less
Total: $113.86
Go to usps website and enter this tracking number: 9101785091401283794515
I was so excited thinking "wow this seller is so professional lucky I bought from him." Since I live only 6 hrs away I figured I'll get my phone after 5 days. Then the waiting game begins!
Oct. 01 '07 I am getting impatient so I decided to contact cellz4less
Question about NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn more.
Dear cellz4less,
its been 5 days still waiting for my phone kinda slow delivery i'm only 6 hrs away
- willisticzon
Item and user details
Item title: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Item number: 170152780750
End date: Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 19:14:36 PDT
From User: willisticzon( 33)
100% Positive Feedback
Member since Jan-06-03 in United States
Activity with willisticzon (last 90 days): willisticzon has bid on 1 of my items.
This message was sent while the listing was active. willisticzon is a bidder.
Its been 2 days still no reply from cellz4less, I decided to file a compliant with paypal
2 days is fair enough right?
Oct.3 '07
Dear Willis,
Thank you for contacting PayPal. We have begun our investigation of the
following transaction:
Transaction Date: Sep 24, 2007
Transaction Amount: -$113.86 USD
Seller's Transaction ID: 50D64929CM985193L
Case Number: PP-345-861-591
Seller's Name: Cellz4Less
Seller's Email: caved050@aol.com
Our records indicate that the seller shipped your item using PayPal
Shipping. You can track this package by logging in to your PayPal account
and visiting your transaction history log or by confirming the information
below:
Tracking Company: USPS
Tracking Number: 9101785091401283794515
If you choose not to cancel this claim, we will resume our investigation
after 3 business days. We will make every effort to resolve this claim
within 30 days although we may require additional time to complete our
investigation.
Finally after 9 days I got a message:
Oct 9. 07
RE: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #170152780750
Thanks for your email. Im sorry for the delay but we needed to hold your
purchased because we found out that the phone that you purchased was locked.
so we needed to return it the distributor for unlocking, but we will be
sending it as soon as we receive it from them . Once again im sorry for the
inconvinience, but if you wish to cancel your purchased we would
understand. For assistance kindly contact our shipping department at
3108391818 around 11am-6pm pacific time. Thanks for your time
Duh! are you guys reading this?! He said my phone was locked! Okay that could happen but what about the rest of the 50 units that he is selling? After all he got 50 8890's for sale cant he just spare me one from the bunch?
So i called the number he gave me.
Oct.10 '07
11am - I got a recording
1pm - I got a recording
3pm - I got a recording
5:30pm - Recording said office is closed already
I'm getting frustrated already!
Oct.11 '07 I got a message from him
Willis, We were about to ship the phone out to you today, but unfortunately there was a dispute on your paypal account. Kindly lift the dispute so that we can send the phone out today. Kindly contact our shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
Okay understandable but I dont trust him anymore so I wrote..
I will cancel the dispute as soon as i see that the package is already
in transit. i will check it thru the usps website i will give you 2
working days to do this if i dont see the package being in transit by
Tuesday give me my money back and i will cancel the dispute!
I'm still trying to be diplomatic.. Then he wrote..
Oct 12
Thanks for your email. Im sorry for the delay but your item is now in
transit with USPS Priority tracking number 9101785091401283794515 and
you should be receiving it shortly. If you have questions kindly contact our
shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-6pm Pacific time. Thanks for
your time and patience.
WTF! does this guy actually think that I'm an idiot or something?! It was the same tracking number he gave me the first time
check the USPS website and enter this tracking number to see for your self 9101785091401283794515.
The item was never been shipped yet.
Either this guy is trying to con me or he does not know the meaning of the word "In Transit"
I lost faith that i will ever get the phone i worked hard for so I just let Paypal decide. After all I still have a dispute on file. And then.....
Oct 18
Willis, we tried to ship your item today but we found out that there was a dispute on paypal, kindly lift the dispute on paypal so that we can send the phone out today. For questions kindly contact our shipping department at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
I had enough of this guy so I decided to call him, I just want my hard earned money back! A guy named Mike picked up the phone (the number does work all you need is patience and a lot of free time!) he told me that the phone was already shipped out and that I should get it by saturday, he added that the phone somehow got lost thru the hands of USPS and that they ordered a "TRACE" already. WTF!
I called Oct 18 Friday around lunch time and he said that I will get it Oct 19 Saturday. I waited
.......Nothing?!
Oct. 23 ahhh there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
Resolution of Your Case: #PP-345-861-591
Dear Willis,
We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.
We were able to recover $113.86 USD and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.
If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.
The Justice system works! I got my money back and decided to give this guy a feedback will it be positive?!.. NO!
Negative feedback rating never got d item waited a month poor comuncation BUYERS BEWARE 100% TIME WASTER!
Buyer:
willisticzon 34
The guts off this guy you would'nt believe the email I got from him
eBay ID cellz4less has filed a case about you - Resolve an Issue with Transaction #170152780750
SquareTrade, eBay's preferred dispute resolution service, was recently contacted by Cellz4Less Cellz4Less (eBay User ID: cellz4less) regarding a transaction.
It is our goal to help parties resolve disputes to everyone's satisfaction.
Click Here To Help Resolve The Issue
It takes 5-10 minutes to answer the complaint.
If this button does not work, please copy & paste this link to your browser address bar:
https://www.squaretrade.com/odr/jsp/rsp/response_pg1.jsp?caseid=060435787856396902&sm=N&sId=
Details of the Transaction: eBay Item Number: 170152780750
Merchandise Description: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE
Reported Problems:
# I received feedback for this transaction and would like it withdrawn.
Why Participate in Resolving the Issue
* Absolutely Free - there is no cost to you.
* Unbiased and Neutral - SquareTrade is an objective third party.
* Highly effective in settling the dispute.
* Voluntary at all times - you have no obligation at any time to settle or continue participating in the process.
* Simple and Quick - It takes 5-10 minutes to answer the complaint and most disputes settle within 7 days with less than 30 minutes of total time from you.
This is an automated notification - please respond by the form.
Who is Squaretrade?
Squaretrade is eBay's preferred Dispute Resolution provider. We resolve thousands of disputes each month from eBay and other marketplaces. Click here to learn more about SquareTrade.
Sincerely,
Squaretrade Customer Support
*Please do not respond to this email with information regarding your case, as it can only be processed through Squaretrade website. If you have other questions, please contact us. Please make sure you reference your Squaretrade Case ID: 357878563.
*If you would like to not receive any of these email notifications, even though it may lead to feedback withdrawal, you may click here.
WTF! what the h#*l is this april's fool or something?! My wife said its harrasment but honestly I find it hillaroius. such desperation though!
I think He realized that i will never fall for that, he emailed me for his last bid of desperation:
Willis, We are contacting you today in regards to the negative feedback that we received from you in ebay. We do apologize for all the inconvinience and delay but is there anyway to resolve this issue with you? Please advise. We can also be reached at 3108391818 around 11am-5pm Pacific time. Hope to hear from you shortly.
Thanks
Francis
Cellz4Less
Resolve the issue? I tried resolving the issue for a month but all I got from him was delaying tactics and lie. After Paypal gave me my money back, after I gave him a negative feedback that's when he wants to resolve the issue.
Oct 30 I got an email from ebay saying that:
Dear willisticzon,
cellz4less has informed us that they have not yet received your payment for the following item: NEW NOKIA 8890 GSM TRIBAND CELL PHONE CLASSIC RARE (#170152780750)
No action is being taken against your account at this time. However, it is important to remember that when you bid on or buy an item you are agreeing to a contract between you and the seller. If the situation isn't resolved within 7 days of this reminder email, you may receive an Unpaid Item strike under eBay's Unpaid Item Policy or lose feedback privileges for this transaction
Most Unpaid Item disputes can be resolved through direct communication between the buyer and seller, and we encourage you to work with your trading partner to reach a resolution.
Thank you,
eBay
What is this guy doing?! trying to annoy me or something? This is what he do to some how remove the negative feedbacks he gets so he could brag about his feedbacks being 100% Positive What an Artist!
My realization about this whole ordeal is, that Paypal really works and I will never ever do any business on ebay without using Paypal, Paypal works it may take time but it works.
And as for you cellz4less dont try emailing me because it will just go straight to my spam folder.
you could remove all your negative feedbacks but there is a growing community of ebayers that you conned and we are doing the best we can to make an awareness that people like you does exist in ebay.
And for you that is reading this at the moment I hope that you will find this article helpfull and that this may help you making a WISE and EDUCATED decision if purchasing something from cellz4less
Thanks!
willisticzon
Guide created: 10/30/07 (updated 11/12/09)

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