You guys out there that think you have the killer drum setup for sale.New or Used  1. if you sold the kit complete including snare. 2. hardware. maybe you will get some response or bids. not everyone out there is looking for just a  shell kit with no hardware. maybe they are looking for a whole kit they can just ad their own  cymbals too and start playing. A shell kit with no snare drum does no good whatsoever. A  5,6,7,8  piece kit with no hardware does no good as there are those with no hardware looking for a complete kit. and the prices you are asking, i would just assume buy new, this is ebay and it is an auction, so think before you advertise your stuff for sale, and maybe you will attract more bidders or buyers. on the other side i am sure there are some people looking to buy just a shell kit as they have their own snare and hardware from their last kit they sold. but trust me there are more first time buyers looking for a deal on a turn key kit that they can just setup and put their cymbals on and start playing away. I beleive there are more first time buyers on ebay looking for a complete drum kit with hardware and snare drum they can just setup and play when the kit arrives. and for you so called dealers who sell new kits without hardware, all you are doing is trying to create more revenue as every new drum kit that comes from the manufacture comes with the hardware kit complete. take mapex for instance. every kit they deliver to their dealers come with the hardware kit complet, turnkey minus cymbals. but you dealers are selling them minus the hardware kit to create more revenue which means i would not do buisness with you. only the honest dealers like TMS1880 he is an honest seller. he sells the kit complete as he gets it from the manufacture and thats the kinda guy that i would do business with, all you other dealers that claim the hardware is extra, B.S. all kits include the hardware kit. so try being a little honest out there and stop ripping off the hard honest working people!