Ok folks, once again the fakes of the Ebay world are growing like mopsie...the latest is the fake "The North Face" jackets, pullovers and related gear...I get lots of emails from China distributors trying to hawk this product....I would be extremely wary of any new low priced down "Nuptse" jackets/outerwear claiming to be genuine "The North Face"...most of the fake down long sleeve coats are solid black, or black on red.