Have you ever went to one of the local electronic giant chain stores and see that sometimes you can purchase items that are marked " OPEN BOX ITEM " right next to the brand new items?  If you have we always suggest those are you better bargains because usually they are items that were opened by a staff person in the store or it could be an item a customer decided they did not want but the item was still in brand new condition, working, and with all the manufacture warranties.  Most of the time you cannot find these items because there is usually someone always looking for these types of sales and they know how good a deal it is to buy them and they do just that.  Of course the next best place to find these types of " OPEN BOX ITEMS " is on eBay, they are still cheaper than the brand new items sold on eBay and they have the same quality, working condition, and warranties.