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BEWARE Craviottto snare & drums SCAMS

by: rayco69( 232Feedback score is 100 to 499) Top 10000 Reviewer
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Guide viewed: 606 times Tags: Craviotto | DW | DW / Craviotto | snare | drum


                                                                                                    
   1994  Alaskan Sitka Spruce                     1997 Ash                               2002 Black Cherry                        2001 Maple
                 6.5 X 14                                     5.5 X 14                                      6.5 X 14                                   6.5 X 14
    (One of only 2 ever made)                      Tube Lugs                          NickelWorks Throw-Off        Black Powdercoat Hardware
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The bottom 2 photos are just photos to show the difference between EXOTIC badges & MAPLE badges. I tried to put the badges from all 4 drums, but EBAY limits the amount of photos to 10.
The captions below each drum describe the drum above to show some differences in the DW / Craviotto snare drums & their hardware.
I currently own these fine drums.
If you see any of these drums up for auction and you don't see my name, it's a scam and please let me know or report it to EBAY.
UPDATE : The Cherry Satin Maple DW / Craviotto has been sold to make way for a Solid Select from Johnny Craviotto's  first drum company.


    For those of you who aren't aware already, there have been a number of auctions for Craviotto snare drums and drum sets that have been already sold and yet are appearing as new auctions. I spoke to one of the buyers to see if, for whatever reason, he decided not to buy and maybe that was why the drums reappeared on EBay as new auctions, but he assured me that he bought the drums and ( like most of the Craviotto collectors) will never sell his prized possesion. Be aware that this is a common occurrence on EBAy.  Make sure to watch for the same photos as those of drums that have already sold.

    Before you buy a Craviotto online, try doing the following things to protect yourself from being ripped off .
1) Make sure you are protected by EBay Buyers Protection ( If it doesn't say that on the auction, it ain't so. Also, it WILL tell you when you are NOT protected. )
2) Timeless Timber Snare Drums NEVER sell for less than thousands of dollars. Always be aware of this and check to see if you are protected by EBay. A drum selling for thousands that has no buyer protection is a huge red flag.
3) DW / Craviottos are becoming more scarce due to the growing number of collectors out there ( These are the drums Johnny Craviotto made during his short time with DW/ Drum Workshop Drums.)
    Always look for Johnny Craviottos signature and date on the inside of the shell. Drums sold as DW / Craviottos without this feature should always be suspect. Understand that the Unlimited versions will generally sell for around $500 - $700, depending on the drum and it's hardware.
    The Limited versions are another story. These are the exotic woods like Black Cherry, ETC.( it will have a  "DW" badge that says "exotic" on it, as well as a "Craviotto" badge ) and they can bring from $600-thousands, depending on the hardware, type of wood, number of drums sold and history of the drum.
    Unique exotic wood drums with outstanding hardware, good condition and a solid, verifiable history will always bring the most at auction.
4) Currently, the Timeless Timbers from Craviotto (not DW / Craviotto) are bringing the best prices due to their unique wood and limited numbers. Needless to say, when you see these snare drums going for $400, instead of thousands,  you need to check to see if you are protected. You might wish to call EBay and make sure the auction is legitimate in their eyes (since they will be the ones to say whether or not they will reimburse you if things go bad ). 
5 ) Do your homework first before buying. Take the time to watch to see what the drum you are looking for is selling for ( don't worry about missing an opportunity, others will come by )
    The easiest way to get burnt on EBay is to get caught up in impulse buying and jump into a bidding war over something  you haven't done your homework on. This is why you should always be wary of 3 day auctions.
    Take your time, do your homework, watch for the same photos as those of drums that have already sold, look for the signature & date on the inside of the shell, make sure you are protected and if possible, buy using PAYPAL for added protection.
    I hope this helps someone avoid getting burned.
Happy Bidding !
Regards,
Ray

Guide ID: 10000000004855653Guide created: 12/12/07 (updated 08/01/08)

 
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