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Apple Powerbook G3 identification guide

by: gooffer( 3987Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Top 100 Reviewer
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Looking to buy or sell or fix your Powerbook G3, confused about words like Lombard, Wallstreet, Pismo, Bronze keyboard, Firewire ?


There are 4 models: all based on the PPC 750 chip set.

Kanga(M3553)(250 Mhz)(11/1997 - 05/1998)

    • First Powerbook G3 with PPC 750 chip set
    • 250 Mhz with 512kb cache
    • 50mhz system bus, 12" display
    • I do not carry any parts for this model and will leave the description to a minimum

Wallstreet(M4753)( Rev A & B)(Rev B also know as PDQ)(05/1998 -05/1999)

                     back ports
                     display bazel
  • SCSI  port
  • Rev A (233,250,292 Mhz)(250 and 292 with 1mb cache)(also called Wallstreet I)(RevA 05/98 to 08/98)
  • Rev B (233,266,300 Mhz)(233 had 512kb, 266 and 300 1mb cache)(also called Wallstreet II)(RevB 09/98-05/99)
  • Parts between Rev A and B are interchangeable. Rev A(250/292) had logic boards with an 87 Mhz bus vs 66 Mhz on all other models.
  • Rev A 233 Mhz have machine ID 314, while all others have ID 312.
  • Top of the line model had DVD player, which required DVD PCMCIA card for DVD playback
  • upgrades to 500 Mhz show up on ebay from time to time
  • Some people sell fake G3 466Mhz upgrades for these machines that simply fool your apple system profiler. I do not sell these and can advise on detecting them.
  • harddrives ata, under OS X up to 8gb supported, or partitioned so the OS is on the first partition.
  • 3 different screen size, the 12" is least desirable came only on the 233 Mhz models, the 13.3" was the midrange and known for it's flicker from time to time, the 14.1" was the top of the line and is infamous for it's hinge failure rate
  • uses Battery M4685 or M6385
  • max Ram 512mb, original max was 192mb but as SDRAM chips evolved it eventually became 256mb x 2(original was PC66, but PC100 of the right backward compatible spec works, I test all my memory before sending it out in the model I adverstise it for)
  • PRAM Battey 922-3380

My currrent Wallstreet parts (if any, trying to phase out this model)

Lombard(M5343)( aka "Bronze Keyboard")(05/1999 to 02/2000)

                  
back ports
                   display bezel
  • USB & SCSI port
  • known as the bronze keyboard Powerbook G3
  • known for L2 cache failure on daughter cards
  • 333(512kb cache) & 400 Mhz(1mb cache)
  • DVD support only on units that shipped with DVD drive ( all 400 Mhz units, very very rare with 333 Mhz units)
  • logic boards without DVD playback require DVD PCMCIA card for DVD playback
  • uses Battery M7318, removable media and batteries are interchangeable with PISMO models
  • upgrades to G4 500 Mhz show up on ebay from time to time
  • ATA hard-drives support to a max of 120gig internally
  • max ram 512mb, original max was 384mb but as SDRAM chips evolved it eventually became 256mb x 2(original was PC66, but PC100 of the right backward compatible spec works, I test all my memory before sending it out in the model I advertise it for)
  • LCD's used are either LG Philips or Samsung and have part numbers like 141x5, the cabling used for the screen has to match the maker of the screen
  • PRAM Battery 922-3829

My current Lombard parts (if any available currently)

To identify just the logic boards between DVD decoding and normal NONE DVD decoding boards look at the pictures below. The board with the C-Cube ZiVA PC chip has the DVD decoder built in.(Sorry for the small pictures ebay seems to limit their size).



    DVD decoding board             NONE DVD decoding board

Pismo(M7572)(aka "Firewire")(02/2000 to 01/2001)

                   
back ports
                    display bezel
  • USB and FIREWIRE
  • uses Battery M7318, removable media and batteries are interchangeable with Lombard models
  • under the keyboard slot for "original airport card"
  • max ram 1gb, original max was 512mb but as dimms evolved it eventually became 512mb x 2 (takes both PC100 & PC133, I verify all chips before sending them out)
  • ATA hard-drives support to a max of 120gig internally
  • shipped as 400 and 500 Mhz machine(both with 1mb cache)
    • M7630LL/A PowerBook (400MHz/1MBL2/64MB/6GB/DVD-ROM/Ethernet/56K modem)
    • M7633LL/A PowerBook (500MHz/1MB L2/128MB/12GB/DVD-ROM/Ethernet/56K modem)
    • M7711LL/A PowerBook (400MHz/1MB L2/64MB/10GB/DVD-ROM/Ethernet/56K modem)
    • M7712LL/A PowerBook (500MHz/1MB L2/128MB/20GB/DVD-ROM/Ethernet/56K modem)
  • upgrades to G4 550 and G3 900 or 1 Ghz show up on ebay from time to time
  • Some people sell fake G3 1Ghz upgrades for these machines that simply fool your apple system profiler. I do not sell these and can advise on detecting them.
  • LCD's used are either LG Philips or Samsung or Chi Mei and have part numbers like 141x7 or 141XA, the cabling used for the screen has to match the maker of the screen
  • PRAM Battery 922-3829

My current Pismo parts (if any available currently)

Powersupplies for all of the above models

  • M4402 Poweradapter (aka the firebrick) Apple had recall on these, but only under special circumstances they catch fire. I use these all the time, they are fine and have the same sort of problems as the YoYo adapter in frazzling or fraying at the powerplug end.

  • M7332 Poweradapter (aka the YoYo ) Apple made this adapter in 2 variations, the one for the Powerbooks G3 and the one for the Powerbook G4 Titanium, the model number being the same. Be very careful buying this adapter if the seller does not specify which plug it has on the end.


The Lombard Series and Pismo Series are most often confused, should the label underneath the Powerbook be missing. Open the back port lid and look at the ports it provides. If your model has 2 USB ports then you have it narrowed down to Lombard or Pismo, now you need to see whether it has a SCSI HDI-30 pin or 2 Firewire ports. Should you not be familiar with SCSI HDI-30 pin it actually has 30 little pins in a 6 x 5 pin cluster and is rectangular located between the eithernet port and the S-video port. The 2 firewire port connectors are the ports between the eithernet port and the S-Video port. When I speak about firewire in the context of a Powerbook G3 I refer to Firewire 400 , not 800. Firewire 800 was not available until the Aluminum Series Powerbooks.

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Guide ID: 10000000000065699Guide created: 11/18/05 (updated 10/03/08)

 
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